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How can they get it so wrong/
17-03-2011, 11:20 PM
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How can they get it so wrong/
Well I found out the other day that I never got in to University to do my Child Nursing course after the majority of Psychics, including Mr Validation John Healey, told me I would. I can't tell you how upset and gutted I was, I was so full of confidence because the psychics were telling me it would happen that I had no reason to doubt it. Since I found out they were wrong I have not watched the show because I have finally realised that I have wasted possibly 1000s of pounds on this channel since it started 7/8 years ago and in that time I have maybe had 2 predictions come true. I have been told an ex is coming back, then he's not, then he is, then he's not. I've been told I'll meet someone new in April, then August, then October. I've been told that my new man will be bald, then have brown hair, then be a fire sign, then an earth sign. I am sick and tired of it! They say it is all down to freewill, well if that is the case then why bother making predictions because you cannot control what happens outside of your life, to be told that an ex still loves you and will come back only for the ex to end up with someone else, move in with them and get married to them and yet they still love and will still come back in 6 weeks or 6 months or 2 years. A load of bulls***! You get patronised by being told that you have to go out there and meet someone new, just because a psychic tells you you'll meet someone new, doesn't mean he'll turn up at the door. So you go out, you socialise and funnily enough that person never appears. You query it to be told that you need to take up a new hobby or do something different to meet this person. What the hell do you have to do to meet someone new. I am a great believer in Spiritualism and I do believe there is a Spirit world but I do not see why psychics can turn around and say that they can predict the future when it is all down to freewill. If it is all down to freewill then no predictions will come true so why bother? Why give vulnerable people hope when there is none? Why have dolly bird presenters and so called "celebrity psychics" who try and convince you that the psychics are the real deal but yet you never get a text answered, get fobbed onto an awful Mystic service or have to sit through the presenter talking the same old rubbish while telling you not to send in any more texts while she drones on for 15-20 minutes giving a hard sell on why people should waste more of their money in the hope that there predictions come true. I would really love to meet these people who have had more predictions come true than they can count on 10 fingers or whether it's just they faithfully cosmic order or think positively because that's what the psychic told them to, while their soulmate/twinflame appears to be moving on with their life with someone else and has absolutely no intention of ever coming back into your life. Or tell someone who is making a life changing career change that they will get into their University course no problem only for it not to be so, and what would their answer be to that, oh it is freewill, spirit told us this would happen so don't know why it didn't, maybe you're meant to do something else.
I have had enough of paying money to these people and getting myself in debt because things aren't going the way they said it would only for my text to either go straight to Mystic half an hour into a daytime show or spend half the night listening to the presenter talk crap when she should actually be getting on with answering the many texts they seem to get.
I can't watch the show anymore, I've been completely shattered by the fact that they got it so wrong and have continued to do so. I can't afford to keep spending money to be told things will happen and they never do.
Sorry for the rant but I needed to let it out. I was a fan of Psychic TV and thought most of the psychics on there were fab but not even someone as great as John Healey could make the right prediction.
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18-03-2011, 12:37 AM
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(17-03-2011 11:20 PM)TaurusGal Wrote:  Well I found out the other day that I never got in to University to do my Child Nursing course after the majority of Psychics, including Mr Validation John Healey, told me I would. I can't tell you how upset and gutted I was, I was so full of confidence because the psychics were telling me it would happen that I had no reason to doubt it. Since I found out they were wrong I have not watched the show because I have finally realised that I have wasted possibly 1000s of pounds on this channel since it started 7/8 years ago and in that time I have maybe had 2 predictions come true. I have been told an ex is coming back, then he's not, then he is, then he's not. I've been told I'll meet someone new in April, then August, then October. I've been told that my new man will be bald, then have brown hair, then be a fire sign, then an earth sign. I am sick and tired of it! They say it is all down to freewill, well if that is the case then why bother making predictions because you cannot control what happens outside of your life, to be told that an ex still loves you and will come back only for the ex to end up with someone else, move in with them and get married to them and yet they still love and will still come back in 6 weeks or 6 months or 2 years. A load of bulls***! You get patronised by being told that you have to go out there and meet someone new, just because a psychic tells you you'll meet someone new, doesn't mean he'll turn up at the door. So you go out, you socialise and funnily enough that person never appears. You query it to be told that you need to take up a new hobby or do something different to meet this person. What the hell do you have to do to meet someone new. I am a great believer in Spiritualism and I do believe there is a Spirit world but I do not see why psychics can turn around and say that they can predict the future when it is all down to freewill. If it is all down to freewill then no predictions will come true so why bother? Why give vulnerable people hope when there is none? Why have dolly bird presenters and so called "celebrity psychics" who try and convince you that the psychics are the real deal but yet you never get a text answered, get fobbed onto an awful Mystic service or have to sit through the presenter talking the same old rubbish while telling you not to send in any more texts while she drones on for 15-20 minutes giving a hard sell on why people should waste more of their money in the hope that there predictions come true. I would really love to meet these people who have had more predictions come true than they can count on 10 fingers or whether it's just they faithfully cosmic order or think positively because that's what the psychic told them to, while their soulmate/twinflame appears to be moving on with their life with someone else and has absolutely no intention of ever coming back into your life. Or tell someone who is making a life changing career change that they will get into their University course no problem only for it not to be so, and what would their answer be to that, oh it is freewill, spirit told us this would happen so don't know why it didn't, maybe you're meant to do something else.
I have had enough of paying money to these people and getting myself in debt because things aren't going the way they said it would only for my text to either go straight to Mystic half an hour into a daytime show or spend half the night listening to the presenter talk crap when she should actually be getting on with answering the many texts they seem to get.
I can't watch the show anymore, I've been completely shattered by the fact that they got it so wrong and have continued to do so. I can't afford to keep spending money to be told things will happen and they never do.
Sorry for the rant but I needed to let it out. I was a fan of Psychic TV and thought most of the psychics on there were fab but not even someone as great as John Healey could make the right prediction.

I'm sorry to hear your news, and I totally get what a disappointment it is to hear something that contradicts all your readings, and the more positive outcome that you and others on hear would have liked to have heard.

I dont know if this will help, but around a year and a half ago, I had a major issue at work. The night before a make or break meeting I had a reading. I needed something to stop my mind racing as to what the outcome of the meeting would be. Lets just say that it didnt look good from a logical perspective and I was already prepared for the worst case scenario in this situation. The reading I had, said that everything would be ok, and that the worst wouldnt happen.

The next day at the meeting, the worst did happen. Like you I swore off readings and didnt understand how someone could be so confident that the outcome would have gone in my favour. Despite this happening, I was then encouraged to challenge the decision that was made. To anyone on the outside, this was a fruitless endeavour with the way the entire situation had been handled. Yet three months later...the prediction given to me, materialised. In that reading I was told that there was an older male who on my side in the process. The first meeting involved a male, but I didnt know him. The second meeting where I was in essence appealing, I did know the male involved.

So although your prediction appears to be incorrect, and it is upsetting. It may just be that there will be a little twist that puts you back on that path.

I do hope that you feel a little better soon, and I really do understand every point you have made above. xx
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18-03-2011, 12:47 AM
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Thanks Eridanus, I know that things can happen for a reason but in this case I don't see how there would be a way for me to get back on track for their prediction to come true as there is only one University doing Child Nursing and can't see them changing their mind about me. I have applied for another course going into the Social Work side and away from nursing so will see where that leads.
I am pleased that your prediction turned out to be correct, I know anything is possible but in my case I don't really see how things will turn out as they said x
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18-03-2011, 01:16 PM
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I totally understand where you're coming from. I've been speaking to psychics on this channel for 5 years now, and also got addicted, and I haven't had anything major come true either besides Grant giving me a name of a girl at work that fancies me, and even she has a boyfriend. I know the psychics are good, as they have all picked up on what's happening around and who's in my life right now, but as far as actually predicting the future, I have my doubts. I've said before that a lot of the psychics picked up on a fair haired lady coming in soon. First they predicted her coming in early December, then late January, then the end of March/start of April, now June or July. I'm now at a point where i'm wondering whether this lady is ever going to come in.

I spoke with Grant this morning since he's the one who pretty much gets everything right about me when I talk to him, and that's the last reading i'm going to have. I can't keep spending money talking about something that isn't and doesn't seem to be materialising.
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18-03-2011, 02:01 PM (This post was last modified: 18-03-2011 02:46 PM by Blair.)
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RE: How can they get it so wrong/
Hi TaurusGal,

I'm so sorry to hear your sad news and totally understand where you are coming from.

I too have spent thousands of pounds over many years listening to these psychics who DO prey on our vulnerability giving us false hope.

I agree with most said on here that yes they do pick up on whats going on around you etc... But, they have never been able to predict a major outcome. I'm sure if we all turned our hands to this line of work, we would all be able to pick up something on the person that we are speaking to.....

Its so disheartening to hear that you were told that you would get on the course, but yet you didn't. It makes me wonder what did John Healey see? And the fact that you did not get a place IS NOT FREE WILL!

So, my question to John Healey is what went wrong? I've heard him say many times on TV that he is ALWAYS right. NO-ONE is ever always right!

They should not be allowed to predict things, but just to describe the feeling/thoughts on the situtations around us at the time.

So, are you going to leave this feedback on their site?

Will PSYCHICTV come on here and tell us what went wrong?

I'm actually quite annoyed that a psychic could be so irresponsible to play with someones emotions like this.

I could go on and on....

Sending lots of love and light to you. x
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18-03-2011, 02:44 PM
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RE: How can they get it so wrong/
Thanks everyone for your lovely comments. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who feels like this. John Healey had answered my question by saying he had a vision of a tv screen and there was a big tick. Rachel the presenter asked if this meant yes and he said it did! I trust John more than most psychics on there and thought well if he's said yes then it must be true. I wish I knew what went wrong but have decided I'm no longer paying anymore money to Psychic TV. It would be interesting if any of the psychics who come on this forum could explain why I was told about this wrongly.
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18-03-2011, 03:01 PM
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(17-03-2011 11:20 PM)TaurusGal Wrote:  Well I found out the other day that I never got in to University to do my Child Nursing course after the majority of Psychics, including Mr Validation John Healey, told me I would. I can't tell you how upset and gutted I was, I was so full of confidence because the psychics were telling me it would happen that I had no reason to doubt it. Since I found out they were wrong I have not watched the show because I have finally realised that I have wasted possibly 1000s of pounds on this channel since it started 7/8 years ago and in that time I have maybe had 2 predictions come true. I have been told an ex is coming back, then he's not, then he is, then he's not. I've been told I'll meet someone new in April, then August, then October. I've been told that my new man will be bald, then have brown hair, then be a fire sign, then an earth sign. I am sick and tired of it! They say it is all down to freewill, well if that is the case then why bother making predictions because you cannot control what happens outside of your life, to be told that an ex still loves you and will come back only for the ex to end up with someone else, move in with them and get married to them and yet they still love and will still come back in 6 weeks or 6 months or 2 years. A load of bulls***! You get patronised by being told that you have to go out there and meet someone new, just because a psychic tells you you'll meet someone new, doesn't mean he'll turn up at the door. So you go out, you socialise and funnily enough that person never appears. You query it to be told that you need to take up a new hobby or do something different to meet this person. What the hell do you have to do to meet someone new. I am a great believer in Spiritualism and I do believe there is a Spirit world but I do not see why psychics can turn around and say that they can predict the future when it is all down to freewill. If it is all down to freewill then no predictions will come true so why bother? Why give vulnerable people hope when there is none? Why have dolly bird presenters and so called "celebrity psychics" who try and convince you that the psychics are the real deal but yet you never get a text answered, get fobbed onto an awful Mystic service or have to sit through the presenter talking the same old rubbish while telling you not to send in any more texts while she drones on for 15-20 minutes giving a hard sell on why people should waste more of their money in the hope that there predictions come true. I would really love to meet these people who have had more predictions come true than they can count on 10 fingers or whether it's just they faithfully cosmic order or think positively because that's what the psychic told them to, while their soulmate/twinflame appears to be moving on with their life with someone else and has absolutely no intention of ever coming back into your life. Or tell someone who is making a life changing career change that they will get into their University course no problem only for it not to be so, and what would their answer be to that, oh it is freewill, spirit told us this would happen so don't know why it didn't, maybe you're meant to do something else.
I have had enough of paying money to these people and getting myself in debt because things aren't going the way they said it would only for my text to either go straight to Mystic half an hour into a daytime show or spend half the night listening to the presenter talk crap when she should actually be getting on with answering the many texts they seem to get.
I can't watch the show anymore, I've been completely shattered by the fact that they got it so wrong and have continued to do so. I can't afford to keep spending money to be told things will happen and they never do.
Sorry for the rant but I needed to let it out. I was a fan of Psychic TV and thought most of the psychics on there were fab but not even someone as great as John Healey could make the right prediction.

Hi there,
I understand totally your dissapointment.On a practical note, why dont you call the uni as many people drop out,and if you beg or ask to be seen in person, they may allow one extra when they know what it means to you.Keep at them-Dont give up.I like others have had may predictions that never happened ...however I will say John healey is one of the best on the show in my reckoning.There are many others who have never got anything right.You mentioned many other psychics also told you you would get the place,so I dont think its fair to just mention John, who else predicted you would get the place?
I do actually think its very healthy that PI have allowed negative feedbacks on their site lately,if you give someone all the info then they make their own choice and wouldnt complain about it so much, I think the problem has been positive feedback allows everyone to believe they are right all the time,when thats not possible,even a good psychic gets it wrong at points,I take the rough with the smooth,never rely on a prediction and live my life,but I do hope that they are right,and I have been upset like you many times before, but dont give up your dream !
But well done PI for allowing a bit of balance-makes you look more credible,dont let us be spoon fed wonder stories by the presenters,and this puts the user in control,let them decide after seeing positives and negatives,-its a win win situation.
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18-03-2011, 07:19 PM
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(18-03-2011 06:38 PM)Muffins Wrote:  Mp2011 - you are right! Long before I started using a psychic service, I failed exams, but that didnt stop me chasing what I wanted to do. Whenever I've wanted something, even if the outlook looked glum, I'd keep at it until I got what I wanted. So I think you should contact the University and see what will happen in the case of dropouts or non acceptance by other people of their places. I'd also say to you that you should investigate other ways into child nursing via the means of the Social Work route. Also, baring in my mind I don't know the requirements to get into child nursing, just ask the University is there anything you could do between now and the next application deadline to help you achieve a place.

Don't forget things can happen unexpectedly to get you where you want to go. Don't give up at all Smile

Yes, you said other psychics advised you that you'd do nursing also, who were they? I think it is fairer to John if you mention them also.

Muffins-I agree totally, I wouldnt let a psychic disuade me from what I wanted,,,or indeed persuade me into a career!
This might sound funny,I guess it is except I was paying for it,in the last 6 months I bulk bought some minutes and spent a few minutes with several psychics ,at the end asking"Any career opportunites coming?"
I was told "I see you....
1.Joining the police force
2.Becoming a Reiki healer( 3 times)
3.becoming a counsellor.."your caring"(twice)
4.Setting up a stall in a market selling things I make as a hobby
5.doing a pottery course that leads to something else
6.A journalist
7.A teacher ?(twice)
8.Tarot reader (about 8 times)
9.Producing a holistic range of health creams
10.Something as an Internet business
11.Somewhere with lots of people that has venetian blinds
13.Working with children
14.Animal healer
15.Working for 6 months in Europe.
There was more, but I get exhausted thinking of it .....!
My career will never be in such an area,its miles away,I meant what will happen in my career,if I had listended to them I may have thrown away my nice salary and prospects and be on a market stall selling god only knows!!
Gotten off the point I know, but Taurusgal, stay with it,and yes, agrre with Muffins,it isnt fair to John to name him when his less able companions dont get named, so we want an exhaustive list!!
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19-03-2011, 03:38 AM
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RE: How can they get it so wrong/
Hi TaurusGal I am so sorry to hear your news, I feel your pain as you know anyone who has been through the PTV treadmill does. I agree with others phone and chase and enquire as much as you can and that's free of charge I won't charge you £1.53 per min LOL!!

I totally agree with you wholeheartedly I have come to the painful conclusion these people, no matter how much they can validate about our pasts, cannot tell the future and as for freewill well I won't post what I really think of that ridiculous get out clause!

I too like many have wasted £0000's to get to the point that I now know for sure that I am a schmuck and have been well and truly taken for a ride when at the lowest point I have ever been in my life and I mean low and PTV are ripe and ready and uncaring in taking advantage of that!

The latest hard sell technique being used by the presenters, some of whom can't even speak properly, as well as many of the psychics is appaling, I would like to note those that seem genuine caring people such as Katie Keeley don't seem to play this game, kudos to them! However this programme prays on the vulnerable and I feel they should really be ashamed of themselves but then they are making so much money I am sure they don't care.

Here is what I would like to see, some investigation, a totally overhaul of the systems used by PTV, all their computers systems everything as I feel so strongly this could all possibly be a big con, although I do not disbelieve all the psychics sincerity, just about 50% of them, they need a thorough investigation IMO to clear them of any underhanded techniques like transcribing readings etc, and before some of you say impossible I can assure its not especially if they just pick up relevant pointers which then suck us in, like your ex's name, colour hair, your job etc you get my drift the sort of things that make you thing OMG they really know their stuff they have really connected with me. How many times have you heard or read feedback that the reader remembered the reading from 3 -6 months prior, really? really? really!! If PTV have nothing to hide they wouldn't mind this but I wonder who could carry out such an investigation?

About 20 years ago I learned the Tarot cards and did readings for the people learning with me and family and friends, not a whole heap but enough, I would like to say by just reading the cards with the meanings I had learnt, I predicted the future for all the readings with most having about two big predictions within the readings such as a new love including description, a new job, an illness in the family, a new baby including the correct sex, etc, all coming true, nothing to do with me just that I was taught how to read the cards and they seem to work. Why can't these people get predictions right I don't have their talent in any way. Maybe its just a fluke as statistically when asked is my ex coming back, will I get the job, will I move house its a 50/50 chance so they will get some right but how come none for me and TaurusGal!?!

I have recently been implored by a PTV reader to stop having readings and as far as I am aware this psychic was not aware of how many or few readings I have had, but I have to say I really felt I was being told something more, we all know when someone is telling you something without saying the words and this was a very genuine caring person and this was more than once and the last time for 2/3 minutes and yes I really mean that long, all during the same reading, and not on the PTV telephone line!

I have made some important decisions because of readings on PTV, yes it was ultimately my decision and I will never, except in humour, blame anyone else but come on, the influence of these people is strong, those decisions have probably signified the end of any chance of the most important man in my life coming back to me as well as causing him hurt and pain and the knowledge that he and I are on our own with this hurt when we should be together and if it wasn't for PTV I know we would be as when he was trying to contact me nearly two years ago when this all restarted this idiot was on the phone to a PTV reader oh how I rue that mistake.

I feel there is something fishy about PTV I am convinced of it and would like my money returned as PTV none of your predictions has ever come true no matter how much cosmic ordering, don't forget you can buy everything you need for this from some of the psychics on the show, positive thinking or whatever you suggest no matter how much I so dearly want them to.

I hope I have to eat my words soon and he is back in my life, as predicted, but alas I doubt it. I worry for all the people in PTV's clutches right now and for those who will be in the future and I wish this forum was advertised in the psychic world type magazines so more people can read our stories if it can stop one person throwing money away or even getting into debt which I imagine many have it would be good.

TaurusGal I wish you all the luck for your nursing and hope something transpires for you to get your place good luck!
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19-03-2011, 10:15 AM (This post was last modified: 19-03-2011 10:30 AM by Blair.)
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(18-03-2011 03:01 PM)Mp2011 Wrote:  
(17-03-2011 11:20 PM)TaurusGal Wrote:  Well I found out the other day that I never got in to University to do my Child Nursing course after the majority of Psychics, including Mr Validation John Healey, told me I would. I can't tell you how upset and gutted I was, I was so full of confidence because the psychics were telling me it would happen that I had no reason to doubt it. Since I found out they were wrong I have not watched the show because I have finally realised that I have wasted possibly 1000s of pounds on this channel since it started 7/8 years ago and in that time I have maybe had 2 predictions come true. I have been told an ex is coming back, then he's not, then he is, then he's not. I've been told I'll meet someone new in April, then August, then October. I've been told that my new man will be bald, then have brown hair, then be a fire sign, then an earth sign. I am sick and tired of it! They say it is all down to freewill, well if that is the case then why bother making predictions because you cannot control what happens outside of your life, to be told that an ex still loves you and will come back only for the ex to end up with someone else, move in with them and get married to them and yet they still love and will still come back in 6 weeks or 6 months or 2 years. A load of bulls***! You get patronised by being told that you have to go out there and meet someone new, just because a psychic tells you you'll meet someone new, doesn't mean he'll turn up at the door. So you go out, you socialise and funnily enough that person never appears. You query it to be told that you need to take up a new hobby or do something different to meet this person. What the hell do you have to do to meet someone new. I am a great believer in Spiritualism and I do believe there is a Spirit world but I do not see why psychics can turn around and say that they can predict the future when it is all down to freewill. If it is all down to freewill then no predictions will come true so why bother? Why give vulnerable people hope when there is none? Why have dolly bird presenters and so called "celebrity psychics" who try and convince you that the psychics are the real deal but yet you never get a text answered, get fobbed onto an awful Mystic service or have to sit through the presenter talking the same old rubbish while telling you not to send in any more texts while she drones on for 15-20 minutes giving a hard sell on why people should waste more of their money in the hope that there predictions come true. I would really love to meet these people who have had more predictions come true than they can count on 10 fingers or whether it's just they faithfully cosmic order or think positively because that's what the psychic told them to, while their soulmate/twinflame appears to be moving on with their life with someone else and has absolutely no intention of ever coming back into your life. Or tell someone who is making a life changing career change that they will get into their University course no problem only for it not to be so, and what would their answer be to that, oh it is freewill, spirit told us this would happen so don't know why it didn't, maybe you're meant to do something else.
I have had enough of paying money to these people and getting myself in debt because things aren't going the way they said it would only for my text to either go straight to Mystic half an hour into a daytime show or spend half the night listening to the presenter talk crap when she should actually be getting on with answering the many texts they seem to get.
I can't watch the show anymore, I've been completely shattered by the fact that they got it so wrong and have continued to do so. I can't afford to keep spending money to be told things will happen and they never do.
Sorry for the rant but I needed to let it out. I was a fan of Psychic TV and thought most of the psychics on there were fab but not even someone as great as John Healey could make the right prediction.

Hi there,
I understand totally your dissapointment.On a practical note, why dont you call the uni as many people drop out,and if you beg or ask to be seen in person, they may allow one extra when they know what it means to you.Keep at them-Dont give up.I like others have had may predictions that never happened ...however I will say John healey is one of the best on the show in my reckoning.There are many others who have never got anything right.You mentioned many other psychics also told you you would get the place,so I dont think its fair to just mention John, who else predicted you would get the place?
I do actually think its very healthy that PI have allowed negative feedbacks on their site lately,if you give someone all the info then they make their own choice and wouldnt complain about it so much, I think the problem has been positive feedback allows everyone to believe they are right all the time,when thats not possible,even a good psychic gets it wrong at points,I take the rough with the smooth,never rely on a prediction and live my life,but I do hope that they are right,and I have been upset like you many times before, but dont give up your dream !
But well done PI for allowing a bit of balance-makes you look more credible,dont let us be spoon fed wonder stories by the presenters,and this puts the user in control,let them decide after seeing positives and negatives,-its a win win situation.

Very well said! Maybe I shouldn't be so harsh on John Healey and agree that the others should be named aswell.

I just really felt Taurusgal' pain. x

But, I still feel that psychics need to take more responsibility for what they do, and that is prey on vulnerable people into parting with money that most of us just do not have.....
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