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psychic or mental health issues..?
10-05-2013, 10:36 PM
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psychic or mental health issues..?
I've addressed this in a few posts but I think its worth a thread..

When people claim to see visions,hearing voices/sounds why is it they straight away think there psychic? Or have paranormal abilities?

Why not first see a doctor? Or some mental health worker and get checked out? Is that not a basic thing to do before claiming being psychic?

Genuine question!

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10-05-2013, 10:46 PM
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When you go to the job centre to sign on, what are you going to put down as what you did over the last while in terms of finding work?

Wonder do the job centre people monitor IP addresses?

Genuine question for a not so genuine poster!
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10-05-2013, 10:58 PM (This post was last modified: 11-05-2013 12:31 AM by chrisw316.)
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LoL not sure about any of them you could always ring them I guess and ask them?

I've not been in a job centre in years..you seem to know a fair bit about signing on..
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I notice you dodge my thread question!
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11-05-2013, 12:28 AM
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RE: psychic or mental health issues..?
Does anyone else have a genuine opinion on this without getting there knickers in a twist?

Its a very genuine question ..

At what point does someone hear and see things in there head and start to think they are psychic ?

If a close friend came to you and said that there hearing voices or seeing strange things in there head, would you not as a friend tell them to go to the doctors for a check up?
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11-05-2013, 01:19 AM
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RE: psychic or mental health issues..?
An interesting artical for skeptic website.

While it may be easy to lump all psychics into a group and label them as frauds, sometimes this isn't always true. Some people truly believe that they are psychic, even when confronted about obvious "misses" in readings. They may blame negative energy, or a disruption of their psychic vibrations. (Whatever that means.) Some of these indefatigable people may have deluded themselves. It should be noted here that no psychic has ever predicted a future event. The ones who aren't just trying to be special or helpful or different, the ones who aren't scamming for money, the ones who clearly think they are predicting the future may actually be mentally ill.

Schizophrenia is a severe mental disorder that affects about 1% of the population of the United States. The symptoms are divided into both "positive" and "negative" categories, though this doesn't mean you'd be pleased to have either. The "negative" symptoms bear striking resemblance to the symptoms of depression, and may include an inability to enjoy everyday life. The "positive" symptoms, however, are much like the powers claimed by psychics.

The positive symptoms include: hallucinations, delusions, thought disorders, and movement disorders. Hallucinations may involve seeing something that is not, in fact, there. These are visual hallucinations. There are also auditory hallucinations, like hearing voices. Delusions are beliefs that remain in spite of indisputable proof that the claim is false. For example, if I believe that I can predict the future and write down ten predictions that will occur within the next year, and they are all proven false yet I still believe I can predict the future, I may be schizophrenic. This is very interesting in that many self-proclaimed psychics have been faced with evidence that their predictions were false, and yet still sell themselves as bona fide psychics.

The PRIME Early Screening Test for Schizphrenia which is online as a research tool for Yale Medical School, has many questions about psychic beliefs.

You can take the test here: http://www.schizophrenia.com/sztest/

Five questions on the test (Numbers 2, 5, 6, 8, and 10) can be directly linked to supposed psychic abilities (there are others that fit into what psychics claim to be able to do, but these five questions are directly connected to psychic ability), and if, on the test, you answer those five questions with "strongly agree" and every single other one with "strongly disagree", the test yields a positive result and suggests seeking medical help.

Again, while it may be easy to say that psychics are misdiagnosed as schizophrenics, no psychic on the planet has ever correctly predicted the future. If they were being misdiagnosed, then the visions wouldn't constitute hallucinations or delusions. They would be fact. And they are not.

Another possibility is Schizotypal Personality Disorder. This is very much like Schizophrenia, but has more emphasis on "magical thinking".

Part of a profile on Schizotypal Personality Disorder from Ptypes.com:

High Openness
Preoccupation with fantasy and daydreaming; lack of practicality; eccentric thinking (e.g., belief in ghosts, reincarnation, UFOs); diffuse identity and changing goals: for example, joining religious cult; susceptibility to nightmares and states of altered consciousness;
While this doesn't mean that everyone who believes in ghosts has Schizotypal Personality Disorder, it is a symptom. If you combine that with the belief that you can tell the future, then you are a strong candidate for the disease.

These are categorized as diseases and not gifts because thus far there is no proof that any paranormal claim is valid. These are absolutely not misdiagnoses. If the patient ever exhibited any signs that what they saw of the future was real, or predicted something that would happen correctly, they would not be classified as mentally ill. But this has never happened.

Take the Personality Disorder Quiz: http://www.4degreez.com/misc/personality...er_test.mv

For further reading:

http://www.ptypes.com/schizotypalpd.html
http://www.nimh.nih.gov/publicat/schizoph.cfm
http://www.schizophrenia.com/diag.php
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11-05-2013, 08:34 AM
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At least it gives him something to do on a Friday night after watching Smackdown.
He takes bored lonely loser to a whole new level.
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11-05-2013, 10:48 AM
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Chris/George
Last time you were on here you were the worlds best psychic, now you claim to be a fitness structor who's a skeptic? The pattern is so familiar now and your rants are getting worse?
You need psychiatric help or better still a job? Well; both really.
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11-05-2013, 11:01 AM
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[quote='chrisw316' pid='17154' dateline='1368221808']
I've addressed this in a few posts but I think its worth a thread..

When people claim to see visions,hearing voices/sounds why is it they straight away think there psychic? Or have paranormal abilities?

Why not first see a doctor? Or some mental health worker and get checked out? Is that not a basic thing to do before claiming being psychic?

Genuine question!

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all your threads say the same thing.... just worded differently!
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11-05-2013, 11:04 AM
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George?? Worlds best psychic?? You metalists are off your rockers... I feel like I'm in a remake of the wicker man !

Lol
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11-05-2013, 11:22 AM
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(11-05-2013 11:04 AM)chrisw316 Wrote:  George?? Worlds best psychic?? You metalists are off your rockers... I feel like I'm in a remake of the wicker man !

Lol

Well. I suppose it is a little humiliating for you to admit to?
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